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04/02/2009 03:30 PM Senate COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS


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03:34:39 PM Presentation: Alaska Statehood Anniversary Celebration
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
    SENATE COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                  
                         April 2, 2009                                                                                          
                           3:34 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Donald Olson, Chair                                                                                                     
Senator Joe Thomas, Vice Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Hollis French                                                                                                           
Senator Linda Menard                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Albert Kookesh                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 137                                                                                                             
"An Act relating to meetings of the Board of Fisheries."                                                                        
     HEARD AND HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Presentation:  Alaska Statehood Anniversary Celebration                                                                         
     HEARD                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 137                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: REPORT ON MEETINGS OF BOARD OF FISHERIES                                                                           
SPONSOR(s): SENATOR(s) BUNDE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHRISTOPHER CONSTANT, Vice President                                                                                            
Alaska Statehood Commission                                                                                                     
POSITION STATEMENT:  Delivered a presentation on behalf of the                                                                
Alaska Statehood Celebration Commission.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
LEO RASMUSSEN, Member                                                                                                           
Alaska Statehood Celebration Commission                                                                                         
Nome, AK                                                                                                                        
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided an overview of the 50th                                                                         
anniversary of statehood celebrations in Nome.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
KAYSA KORPELA, Member                                                                                                           
Capital City Celebrations                                                                                                       
Juneau, AK                                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided an overview of the activities                                                                   
celebrating the 50th anniversary of statehood in Juneau.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MICHELLE ROBERTS, Executive Director                                                                                            
Festival Fairbanks                                                                                                              
Fairbanks, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided an overview of the 50th statehood                                                               
celebrations held in Fairbanks.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DARL SCHAAF, Planner/Coordinator                                                                                                
Anchorage Statehood Celebrations                                                                                                
Anchorage, AK                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided an overview of the 50th statehood                                                               
celebrations held in Anchorage.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CON BUNDE                                                                                                               
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, AK                                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Sponsor of SB 137.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
JIM MARCOTTE, Executive Director                                                                                                
Board of Fisheries                                                                                                              
Alaska Department of Fish and Game                                                                                              
Juneau, AK                                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Commented on SB 137.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JERRY MCCUNE                                                                                                                    
United Fishermen of Alaska                                                                                                      
Cordova, AK                                                                                                                     
POSITION STATEMENT:  Stated support for SB 137.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
BOB THORSTENSON, Executive Director                                                                                             
Southeast Alaska Seiners Association                                                                                            
Juneau, AK                                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT:  Stated qualified support for SB 137.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:34:04 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DONALD OLSON called the Senate Community and Regional                                                                   
Affairs Standing Committee meeting to order at 3:34 p.m.                                                                        
Senators  French and  Olson were  present at  the call  to order.                                                               
Senators Menard and Thomas arrived shortly thereafter.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
    ^Presentation: Alaska Statehood Anniversary Celebration                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON announced  the committee  would hear  a presentation                                                               
from the Alaska Statehood Celebration Commission.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:34:39 PM                                                                                                                    
CHRISTOPHER   CONSTANT,   Vice    President,   Alaska   Statehood                                                               
Celebration  Commission, ("Commission")  said the  Commission was                                                               
created  in January  2005 and  funded with  $300,000 to  plan and                                                               
implement  statehood  activities.  It  consists  of  five  public                                                               
members and four  legislative members and was formed  to plan and                                                               
administer  all official  statehood activities,  set policy,  and                                                               
create  a  timeline  for  the   activities.  The  vision  of  the                                                               
Commission  is to  honor the  state's history  and celebrate  its                                                               
future. The mission  is to inspire people to  rejoice in Alaska's                                                               
past, present, and future. The  values are to honor and celebrate                                                               
Alaska  Native heritage,  culture, and  history; individuals  who                                                               
were instrumental in creating statehood; and Alaska's children.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:37:31 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  CONSTANT said  the Commission  objectives  were to  organize                                                               
subcommittees  to plan  for  a budget,  public  relations and  to                                                               
create  a website  of statewide  activities; to  engage in  joint                                                               
projects    with    municipalities,   the    university,    civic                                                               
organizations  and  nonprofits; to  initiate  a  fair process  to                                                               
solicit ideas  for celebrating the 50th  anniversary of statehood                                                               
and to  provide resources when  possible to help  communities get                                                               
organized;  and to  look at  statehood and  legacy projects  that                                                               
could last into  the future. He noted that the  public sector has                                                               
really stepped up to help.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
To get  things rolling the  Commission engaged in a  most notable                                                               
initial  project, which  was  the creation  of a  logo.  It is  a                                                               
recast of  the original  statehood medallion  with only  the date                                                               
being different. The Commission  has provided these medallions to                                                               
communities statewide to  use as a fundraising  tool. Dean Potter                                                               
is the  artist who  created the logo  and also  the commemorative                                                               
license plate that was unveiled January 2008.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:40:10 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. CONSTANT  said another  item that was  released on  January 3                                                               
was  the U.S.  postage stamp  commemorating Alaska  statehood. He                                                               
noted that the Postal Service bent  the rules by putting a living                                                               
person on  the stamp. Another  project that is close  to fruition                                                               
is  the  Alaska  Airlines paint-the-plane  project.  The  winning                                                               
design was submitted  by a 16-year-old from Sitka.  Her motto is,                                                               
"WE'RE  ALL PULLING  TOGETHER."  The plane  will  be unveiled  in                                                               
Sitka next  Thursday and will  be in  service for seven  or eight                                                               
years. Mr. Constant listed some  important dates in the statehood                                                               
process: Congress passed the Alaska  Statehood Act June 28, 1958;                                                               
Alaska  voters  ratified  the  Act  August  26,  1958;  President                                                               
Eisenhower signed  the Act July  7 1958;  and on January  3, 1959                                                               
President  Eisenhower  signed  a  proclamation  making  statehood                                                               
official.  Activities in  Juneau, Fairbanks,  and Anchorage  will                                                               
center on these dates.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:42:48 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. CONSTANT  said the  organizing events  have been  attended by                                                               
thousands of  Alaskans, tourists, and  international dignitaries.                                                               
The Commission has participated  in local fundraising efforts and                                                               
collateral   materials  are   being  distributed   to  thousands.                                                               
Requests  to  use  the  Alaska   statehood  logo  number  in  the                                                               
hundreds. It's even  used on coke cans.  Continuing activities of                                                               
the Commission include:  helping communities organize anniversary                                                               
activities; an  outreach project  to military  deployed overseas;                                                               
continuing to work with the  tourism industry to encourage travel                                                               
to  Alaska  for  statehood  celebrations; and  working  with  the                                                               
university, state  museums and libraries to  preserve and archive                                                               
statehood work. "We had some  amazing and brilliant inspirational                                                               
activities across  the state." Mr. Constant  said he particularly                                                               
wants  to recognize  partnering  help from  Alaska Airlines,  the                                                               
Alaska Railroad, and the travel industry.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:46:06 PM                                                                                                                    
LEO RASMUSSEN,  Member, Alaska Statehood  Celebration Commission,                                                               
reminded the  committee that  Nome was a  hotbed in  the movement                                                               
toward statehood. The first elected  member to Congress came from                                                               
Nome  so it's  been  a part  of the  city's  lifestyle since  its                                                               
beginning in  1899 with the  discovery of gold. The  Nome program                                                               
was comprised of signature events  scaled to be comparable to the                                                               
larger  communities. On  December 31,  2008 they  recreated eight                                                               
stars of  gold with  eight bonfires  on the  ice. The  Big Dipper                                                               
bonfire was two  miles long and one mile wide.  This was followed                                                               
by a torchlight  parade. He noted that glow sticks  do work at 20                                                               
below  and  are  immensely  beautiful. They  also  held  a  49-50                                                               
celebration with  sparklers and the  picture is beautiful.  In an                                                               
effort to  set a  record, Nome  decided to  create a  1,100 pound                                                               
flaming Baked Alaska. The  birthday celebration continued indoors                                                               
at old St. Joseph's Church.  Senator Olson made a presentation on                                                               
statehood and  gifted a framed  49 star  flag to the  city. Three                                                               
more events  are planned.  First is a  re-creation of  early Nome                                                               
4th of July celebrations, second is  a contest to climb a greased                                                               
pole to get a $50 bill, and  finally a picnic will take place for                                                               
anyone and everyone. He thanked the committee.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:53:14 PM                                                                                                                    
KAYSA  KORPELA, Capital  City  Celebrations,  explained that  the                                                               
eight-member  group was  formed at  the request  of the  mayor to                                                               
help plan and  host events and projects for  the 50th anniversary                                                               
of statehood  in Juneau. Capital City  Celebrations meets monthly                                                               
and also  holds a monthly  volunteer meeting to elicit  help from                                                               
community members. The  first event was done  in partnership with                                                               
the  Juneau  Symphony,  which presented  a  piece  entitled  "The                                                               
Alaska Symphony."  It was written  in the 1940s  and commemorated                                                               
the  passage of  the Alaska  Statehood Act  by Congress  in 1958.                                                               
Capital City  Celebrations also hosted, alone  or in partnership,                                                               
the  following:  a  desert competition,  a  wine  tasting,  First                                                               
Ladies  of  Alaska  tea,  and  a cruise  ship  lunch.  They  also                                                               
partnered with the  4th of July Parade  Committee, Eaglecrest ski                                                               
area,  Perseverance  Theatre,  and  a  local  women's  event.  On                                                               
January 3, 2009 the 50th Anniversary  Ball was held, and the next                                                               
day they partnered with BP to present a fireworks display.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The  last   event  will  be   the  4th  of  July.   Capital  City                                                               
Celebrations is  working with the  Juneau-Douglas City  Museum to                                                               
reenact the  flag raising  ceremony and  the parade  committee to                                                               
recreate  some floats.  The original  queen and  her court  of 50                                                               
years ago  will be in  the parade.  A community picnic  and dance                                                               
will  follow.  Ms. Korpela  said  Capital  City Celebrations  has                                                               
worked hard  to fund  the events  and is  now looking  forward to                                                               
planning a legacy project that will  serve as a reminder that the                                                               
state  has  achieved  50  years of  statehood.  She  thanked  the                                                               
Legislature for the  opportunity to work on  the 50th anniversary                                                               
of statehood celebrations.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.   KORPELA   reminded   the  committee   that   Capital   City                                                               
Celebrations is  partnering with Perseverance Theatre  to reenact                                                               
the play, "8 Stars of Gold"  tomorrow night at 7:30. The original                                                               
play was built on discussions  by Alaska's political and cultural                                                               
leaders whose vision led to statehood.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:57:33 PM                                                                                                                    
MICHELLE  ROBERTS, Executive  Director, Festival  Fairbanks, told                                                               
the  committee   that  Festival  Fairbanks  was   tasked  by  the                                                               
Commission to  hold the May  28 event celebrating the  U.S. House                                                               
of  Representatives passing  the initial  Alaska Statehood  bill.                                                               
Festival Fairbanks then  held a 1950s style  barbecue and bonfire                                                               
event with pyrotechnics. They had  the first official Alaska kite                                                               
day and held an event  highlighting businesses past, present, and                                                               
future.  A large  fireworks show  was held  on January  17 rather                                                               
than the 3rd because of ice fog conditions.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Festival  Fairbanks  is finishing  the  Chena  River walk,  which                                                               
recognizes  the  centennial of  the  city.  The Fairbanks  legacy                                                               
project is  to complete the  river walk  by completing a  loop on                                                               
the north  and south sides of  the river. The Alaska  Railroad is                                                               
the only property owner that has not  agreed to be a part of this                                                               
project  so  there are  a  few  details  to  work out.  The  50th                                                               
anniversary torch was  brought to the Fairbanks ice  park for the                                                               
Ice  Alaska world  championships and  got national  coverage when                                                               
Dorothy  Hamill was  interviewed standing  in front.  Ms. Roberts                                                               
said  Festival  Fairbanks  is working  with  social,  civil,  and                                                               
service  groups  to ensure  that  the  logo is  adopted  whenever                                                               
appropriate.  Other  activities   include  flying  banners  along                                                               
airport road and production of  a 50th anniversary wine. City and                                                               
borough beautification  efforts for the  year include a  blue and                                                               
gold color scheme.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:01:31 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR FRENCH  thanked the  commission for  coming to  Juneau to                                                               
talk  about  statehood  celebrations.  He  was  in  Anchorage  on                                                               
January 3  when the fireworks went  off and he will  never forget                                                               
the stunning display.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON asked when their legacy project will be finished.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. ROBERTS explained  that the south side will  be finished this                                                               
year, but  finishing the north  side depends on  cooperation from                                                               
the Alaska Railroad.  To date they only want  to grant permission                                                               
to  build the  trailhead, but  Festival Fairbanks  needs to  know                                                               
there is a right-of-way for the  entire bike path. The state owns                                                               
the railroad so  the legislature could help. "We'd  like see more                                                               
opportunities in  Fairbanks like…Ship Creek [in  Anchorage]," she                                                               
said. The  railroad has  put a  lot of time  and money  into that                                                               
type  of development.  We're  not asking  them  for money,  we're                                                               
asking for a right-of-way that we will then maintain, she said.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON said let us know how we can help.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:03:46 PM                                                                                                                    
DARL    SCHAAF,    Planner/Coordinator,    Anchorage    Statehood                                                               
Celebrations said  Anchorage was tasked with  hosting the January                                                               
3rd party. Working through the  Alaska Community Foundation, they                                                               
decided this  should serve as  a kick off  for the year.  Some of                                                               
the   approximately  18   events  were   funded  by   the  state.                                                               
Specifically, the state underwrote the  projects in the amount of                                                               
$1  million and  the  city  raised a  matching  $1.2 million.  He                                                               
proudly  noted that  $1 million  of the  match was  earned rather                                                               
than raised so it didn't compete with existing nonprofits.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Anchorage  Statehood Celebrations  worked  with  the military  to                                                               
present the June 28 air show  and 3-day weekend that was attended                                                               
by  thousands. At  Elmendorf Air  Force Base  a 1940s  hanger was                                                               
converted  to  hold a  reunion  concert  with Wynonna  Judd.  Ten                                                               
thousand people came  to the base to watch and  AT&T broadcast it                                                               
on  an  international network.  As  a  gift  from the  state  any                                                               
deployed person  who so  desired could watch  the concert  on the                                                               
4th of July.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:07:35 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  SCHAAF  said  that  when  Anchorage  Statehood  Celebrations                                                               
decided  to  participate  in  the  statewide  bonfire  event  the                                                               
military collected  30 tons of  debris and  lit it by  dropping a                                                               
fake bomb  filled with  pyrotechnics from  a B-25.  The explosion                                                               
was very  impressive. He continued  to say that twice  during the                                                               
year  all  of  the  living   governors  of  Alaska  were  brought                                                               
together. The first gathering was  a fundraising opportunity that                                                               
raised approximately $425,000 with the  sale of a Sydney Lawrence                                                               
print that was  signed by all of the living  governors. With that                                                               
money  they  presented  a governor's  legacy  dinner,  which  was                                                               
completely sold out.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
The New Years  Eve party, commemorating a moment  in history, was                                                               
billed worldwide.  Alaska Airlines  stepped up and  offered half-                                                               
price tickets  to Anchorage  for that  week. Over  1,000 Alaskans                                                               
were  paid  to  work  on   the  projects  and  over  700  artists                                                               
performed.  The  gala  was attended  by  1,500  people  including                                                               
dignitaries  from  other  countries.   The  gala  was  televised.                                                               
Delegates  each  27  different villages  came  to  Anchorage  and                                                               
participated in a pledge of  unity promising to work together for                                                               
the next  50 years in  order to make  Alaska a better  place. The                                                               
next  day the  delegates and  the Conference  for Young  Alaskans                                                               
marched  through   town  and  symbolically  lit   the  nine  foot                                                               
stainless steel  "Light of the  North" torch. It was  designed so                                                               
that  the four  panels  can  be removed  for  display in  Juneau,                                                               
Fairbanks,  Anchorage, and  hopefully in  the Smithsonian  Alaska                                                               
exhibit.  The  legacy project,  which  is  at the  state  parking                                                               
garage,  is  a  bronze  plaque  history  walk  that  captures  16                                                               
important  moments in  the  history  of statehood.  Commemorative                                                               
books are available.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:13:20 PM                                                                                                                    
Anchorage Statehood  Celebrations also organized a  quilt project                                                               
depicting rural  Alaska. These nine  large quilts and a  book are                                                               
currently touring the state. The  work is brilliant and copies of                                                               
the  book  are  available.  Finally,  on  January  3rd  Anchorage                                                               
Statehood   Celebrations  put   on   an   enormous  seven   venue                                                               
celebration  with free  entertainment by  Alaska performers.  The                                                               
economic  impact  was  substantial.  Over 500  room  nights  were                                                               
rented January 1-3  in downtown Anchorage. Mr.  Schaaf noted that                                                               
a   book  commemorating   the  celebration   events  is   at  the                                                               
publishers.   Furthermore,   Anchorage   Statehood   Celebrations                                                               
recently  endowed  the  Anchorage   museum  to  digitize  140,000                                                               
statehood photos and  established a fund at  the Alaska Community                                                               
Foundation for the 75th anniversary of statehood celebration.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:16:24 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MENARD asked if the prints are selling for $1,500.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. SCHAAF said yes, and he  looks upon it as an investment. When                                                               
commemorative prints  were sold  25 years ago  the cost  was $500                                                               
and now they sell for $5,000. "You'll  get a copy of all three of                                                               
the  books,  the   quilt  book,  the  bronze   plaque,  and  this                                                               
photographic book," he added.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MENARD commented  that it feels like there  is Karma here                                                               
because her parking space is number 49.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CONSTANT  said  in  2003   when  he  worked  at  the  Alaska                                                               
Humanities  Forum  he began  thinking  about  this project.  They                                                               
started with the work on  the Constitutional Convention and since                                                               
then they have inspired many  people to become involved. His hope                                                               
has  been  to  communicate  the  historical  importance  of  this                                                               
occasion to young  people. At the 100th  anniversary of statehood                                                               
the young people of today will be  able to look back and say they                                                               
met  Katie  Hurley  on  the 50th  anniversary.  I  believe  we've                                                               
achieved our goal in many ways, he said.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. CONSTANT recognized the  Rasmuson Foundation for contributing                                                               
$1 million for  important humanities projects - the  study of the                                                               
history,  the  creation of  documentaries,  and  the creation  of                                                               
interpretive  artwork.  This was  done  in  partnership with  the                                                               
Humanities Forum.  He added  that the  Commission will  come back                                                               
with a final report recommending  how the celebration can be even                                                               
better next time.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MENARD  highlighted  that  there was  $300,000  for  the                                                               
National Endowment  of the Arts  in the stimulus package  and she                                                               
supports accepting the  money. Art develops the left  side of the                                                               
brain and there are fantastic artists  in Alaska. Do what you can                                                               
to accept that money, she said.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:20:56 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. CONSTANT  said there  is money  available in  the competitive                                                               
funds  from the  National Endowment  for  the Arts  and only  two                                                               
organizations in the state are  eligible to apply for that money.                                                               
There is  $250,000 to  re-grant funds  to arts  organizations. He                                                               
fully supports the Legislature accepting  that money and he would                                                               
hope  that  Juneau,   as  the  local  granting   agency  of  city                                                               
government, would also  take that approach. Get  on board because                                                               
that could double the money  available to Alaska arts and culture                                                               
organizations, he said.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON asked the names of the organizations.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. CONSTANT answered  they are Alaska State Council  on the Arts                                                               
and Juneau Arts and Humanities.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON asked  about the  number and  subject of  the legacy                                                               
projects that are outstanding.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CONSTANT   replied  it's  difficult  to   say  because  most                                                               
communities are still  working on theirs. He offered  to submit a                                                               
report on which projects are moving forward.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MENARD  said she would  like to borrow parade  ideas from                                                               
Capital  City Celebrations  to use  in the  parade at  the Alaska                                                               
State Fair in Palmer.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:23:18 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR OLSON said Nome can probably  accept the Light of the North                                                               
panel if the Smithsonian doesn't have room for it.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 4:24 p.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
        SB 137-REPORT ON MEETINGS OF BOARD OF FISHERIES                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:25:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR OLSON announced the consideration of SB 137.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CON BUNDE,  Alaska State Legislature, sponsor  of SB 137,                                                               
said  he fishes  but he  doesn't have  a dog  in this  fight. The                                                               
legislation  addresses the  concern that  the Board  of Fisheries                                                               
(BOF) meetings  may not be  on an optimal schedule.  He explained                                                               
that there are  people in the Alaska Department of  Fish and Game                                                               
(ADF&G)   who  take   almost   a  year   to   prepare  data   and                                                               
recommendations  for a  BOF  meeting. Once  the  policies are  in                                                               
place there  might not  be enough time  between meetings  for the                                                               
department to  collect and review  data to prove or  disprove the                                                               
efficacy  of the  policy  before  they need  to  prepare for  new                                                               
proposals. This bill  simply asks the Board of  Fisheries to tell                                                               
the  Legislature  the  time interval  that  should  pass  between                                                               
meetings.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SB 137  further asks the  BOF to recommend  a plan that  does not                                                               
disenfranchise the  public process,  but that  helps ADF&G  to be                                                               
more efficient in addressing repetitive proposals.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:28:37 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BUNDE noted that the  Southeast Seiners recently provided                                                               
a letter of support.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MENARD commented  that  there isn't  a  fiscal note  and                                                               
asked if BOF members get a stipend when they meet.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON clarified  that there  is a  fiscal note  and it  is                                                               
zero.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BUNDE  explained that  they get per  diem, but  this bill                                                               
would not add costs.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON asked  if there isn't a cost attached  to a biologist                                                               
looking at the proposal.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:30:17 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BUNDE said yes, but those  costs are built into the ADF&G                                                               
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MENARD said  she just  wanted to  understand the  fiscal                                                               
impact.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  asked who would come  out on the short  side if this                                                               
bill were to pass.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BUNDE  replied he  really doesn't  know, but  someone who                                                               
wants  their   good  idea   to  be   heard  immediately   may  be                                                               
inconvenienced.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:32:00 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR OLSON asked if he heard anything from fishers.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BUNDE replied  he has  not heard  anything negative.  If                                                               
there is concern he suspects it will be sport related.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THOMAS summarized that the  bill does two things. It asks                                                               
for  a recommendation  as  to whether  the  time between  meeting                                                               
dates should  be expanded  from the current  three years,  and it                                                               
asks for a policy to deal with repetitive proposals.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   BUNDE  reiterated   that  the   bill  asks   for  those                                                               
recommendations  and makes  no suggestion  as to  what the  right                                                               
answers might be.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   THOMAS  reviewed   the   zero  fiscal   note  and   the                                                               
approximately $300,000  for the Division of  Commercial Fisheries                                                               
to  attend   each  meeting.   He  asked   how  BOF   members  are                                                               
compensated.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:34:38 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BUNDE said they receive  per diem. He surmised that there                                                               
could be  a negative fiscal  impact if the time  between meetings                                                               
were extended.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON asked why this wasn't addressed years ago.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BUNDE replied  he would  have acted  sooner had  it been                                                               
brought to his attention.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:36:26 PM                                                                                                                    
JIM  MARCOTTE, Executive  Director,  Board  of Fisheries,  Alaska                                                               
Department of Fish  and Game, Juneau, said he  hopes his comments                                                               
will provide a context for the  bill. He explained that the Board                                                               
of Fisheries is on a three-year  cycle. It meets about 35-40 days                                                               
per  year,   generally  October   through  March,   in  different                                                               
geographic areas.  Meetings can run for  10 or 11 days.  Prior to                                                               
1990 the  board dealt  with every  issue each  year, which  was a                                                               
huge  workload. Switching  to a  three-year  cycle was  a way  to                                                               
balance the  needs of  the public and  the department  in getting                                                               
through  the  workload. Now  they  get  around to  the  different                                                               
sections every  three years, which  generally serves  the process                                                               
quite well.  There are procedures  for the Board of  Fisheries to                                                               
respond  more  quickly  if  needed. There  is  an  agenda  change                                                               
request  policy   and  the  ability   to  respond   to  emergency                                                               
petitions.  The downside  to out-of-cycle  actions  is that  they                                                               
tend to have  less public input. If the three-year  cycle were to                                                               
be lengthened, more out-of-cycle requests would be anticipated.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:39:42 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MARCOTTE  said the packet  contains a  list of where  the BOF                                                               
meetings have been  held and the pattern for the  past six years.                                                               
The meeting  schedule for next year  and a pie chart  showing the                                                               
source of the various proposals  are also included. About half of                                                               
the  proposals come  from the  public. Sometimes  local fish  and                                                               
game advisory  committees, stakeholder groups,  village councils,                                                               
and other  entities submit proposals; and  the department submits                                                               
proposals through the same mechanism.  Neither the department nor                                                               
the Board  of Fisheries  has developed a  formal position  on the                                                               
bill, but  both would like  to review the assumptions  built into                                                               
that three-year cycle and make recommendations.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ADF&G submitted a zero fiscal note  because there is just a small                                                               
workload  to have  a discussion  and develop  recommendations. If                                                               
the  meetings  cycle were  to  change,  he would  submit  another                                                               
fiscal  note.  He  appreciates  that   the  bill  is  asking  for                                                               
background information  before taking an action;  that's always a                                                               
healthy approach.  Finally, he  said this is  just one  aspect of                                                               
the  BOF process.  There are  many  other elements  in having  an                                                               
effective board process.  This is one of several  kinds of things                                                               
that might be on an overall list looking for improvements.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THOMAS asked if $296,000  is an annual number because the                                                               
BOF is meeting every year.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:43:09 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MARCOTTE replied  the information he provided  is intended to                                                               
give the  committee an idea of  costs to the department.  This is                                                               
the cost  for one division  for one  12-day meeting. It's  not an                                                               
annual cost, but it does show  that there is considerable cost to                                                               
the  state coffer  to  prepare  for these  meetings.  It's not  a                                                               
comprehensive cost of  a BOF meeting because  other divisions and                                                               
support costs are involved.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THOMAS  said  but  this  is just  part  of  the  expense                                                               
incurred on an annual basis because the BOF meets every year.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MARCOTTE replied  there is  more  than one  meeting a  year.                                                               
Typically there is  just one large meeting every  year, but there                                                               
may also be smaller meetings that add costs.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THOMAS said  now  he understands  that  the board  meets                                                               
every  year and  the  meeting cycle  repeats  itself every  three                                                               
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MARCOTTE  said  that's  correct.  The  handout  of  all  the                                                               
meetings held in the last six  years shows that the overall cycle                                                               
repeats  every  three  years. The  individual  meetings  vary  in                                                               
length, but they total about 35-40 days per year.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THOMAS  noted  that  there   are  between  200  and  500                                                               
proposals  each  year  and  one  meeting  had  258  proposals  on                                                               
finfish.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MENARD  asked if it's fair  to say that he  is neutral on                                                               
the bill, but can be supportive in conversation.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARCOTTE said yes.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON asked  why the  Board  of Fisheries  is hesitant  to                                                               
endorse the legislation if it saves money for the state.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:46:37 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MARCOTTE  replied there  isn't any  hesitancy to  endorse the                                                               
legislation,  it's the  workload. They  just got  through dealing                                                               
with 390 proposals and that kept  their plate full. They do track                                                               
the legislation.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON asked if they are finished for 2009.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARCOTTE  explained that they  are finished with  the October                                                               
2008 through  March 2009 meeting  cycle. He added that  the Board                                                               
of  Fisheries does  not oppose  having a  discussion. An  ongoing                                                               
theme is to look at ways to do things better.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THOMAS observed  that  the language  in  the bill  talks                                                               
about  a recommendation  to expand  the interval  between meeting                                                               
dates, but  it doesn't  talk about  a recommendation  to compress                                                               
the time frame.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARCOTTE said  that is the wording of the  bill, but a review                                                               
wouldn't necessarily be limited by  looking at only an expansion.                                                               
It  is looking  at whether  the current  three-year cycle  is the                                                               
best model.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:48:40 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MENARD said many citizens  want to have a conversation on                                                               
how the Board of Fisheries  operates. The timing is excellent and                                                               
she looks forward to a healthy debate.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  said the  priority to save  money is  admirable, but                                                               
his priority  is the fisher.  He asked if this  legislation would                                                               
in any way  affect the person in  a small skiff who  is trying to                                                               
make a living.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARCOTTE  said the bill  wouldn't have an adverse  affect; it                                                               
only requests a discussion. The  Board of Fisheries is very aware                                                               
of being  responsive to  the resource  and the  stakeholders, and                                                               
that it is a potential barrier  if people have to wait five years                                                               
to get their issue heard.  As previously mentioned, there ways to                                                               
deal with issues  on a shorter timeframe. He  agreed with Senator                                                               
Menard that  the process is  the out-of-cycle requests  and added                                                               
that there are pros and cons to that.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:50:41 PM                                                                                                                    
JERRY MCCUNE, United  Fishermen of Alaska, stated  support for SB
137. Crab fishers  are concerned about moving away  from a three-                                                               
year  cycle,  but they  are  willing  to have  the  conversation.                                                               
There was  a meeting in  Cordova in  early December and  the next                                                               
meeting, which  won't be in  Cordova, is  in 2011. His  and other                                                               
small  organizations   are  trying   to  figure  out   the  costs                                                               
associated  with attending  the meeting.  They are  a lot  higher                                                               
than  in  the  old  days  when there  were  fewer  proposals  and                                                               
conflicts. This is an appropriate conversation, he said.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON asked how many shellfish fishers belong to UFA.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MCCUNE said there are two  groups that have crab fishers plus                                                               
some  individuals  that are  in  different  groups that  do  crab                                                               
fishing. He got lots of input  from around the state. Some people                                                               
weren't enthusiastic  about changing  the cycle but  realize that                                                               
it's just a conversation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:53:48 PM                                                                                                                    
BOB  THORSTENSON, Executive  Director,  Southeast Alaska  Seiners                                                               
Association,  said   he  also   represents  the   Alaska  Scallop                                                               
Association and the  Alaska Crab Coalition. Those  groups are not                                                               
excited  about changing  the  cycle, but  support  the bill.  The                                                               
change from  a one to a  three-year cycle was a  vast improvement                                                               
and provided  greater consistency  for the sport,  commercial and                                                               
personal use groups.  The fact that the legislation  makes this a                                                               
conversation is a very good idea.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THORSTENSON  opined  that  everyone  will  talk  about  cost                                                               
savings in  terms of hotel rooms  and air fares, but  that's just                                                               
part  of the  cost.  The  main cost  in  these  meetings is  that                                                               
between  15   percent  and  25   percent  of   every  researcher,                                                               
biologist,  biometrician,  and  major  manager of  the  state  is                                                               
wrapped up in a three-year  Board of Fisheries cycle. He believes                                                               
that it will  save the state millions of dollars  if the Board of                                                               
Fisheries decides  to lengthen the  cycles. It's not  just travel                                                               
costs;  it's  salaries,   overhead,  healthcare,  insurance,  and                                                               
pension costs  of the  employees that travel  over the  state and                                                               
spend time.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:58:15 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. THORSTENSON  said the  current process  is winnowing  some of                                                               
the best and brightest people. They  want to devote their time to                                                               
science  and the  resource, not  to giving  reports. He  cited an                                                               
example of a  manager who took a  lower rank job so as  not to go                                                               
through the cycle again. It has become a real problem.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Public  input  is  good  but   repetitive  proposals  are  almost                                                               
ridiculous, he  said. Osama  Bin Laden could  make a  proposal to                                                               
the Board of  Fisheries and it would have to  be taken seriously.                                                               
It's a  wonderful public process,  but it almost  becomes anarchy                                                               
when someone sends  in numerous proposals. He has  had members of                                                               
organizations send in 67 proposals  and there is nothing that can                                                               
be done  to limit  those. It  is part of  the bill  and something                                                               
that needs  review. We support the  BOF and what it  is doing and                                                               
want to enable them to do a better job.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MENARD  said these  scientists know  they're going  to be                                                               
involved in these  cyclical meetings when they're  hired. She has                                                               
a son who fished  in Bristol Bay, a brother in law  who is a fish                                                               
and  game  biologist  in  Nome,  and  friends  on  the  Board  of                                                               
Fisheries  and  she doesn't  buy  into  people being  disgruntled                                                               
about their  jobs because  of the very  good public  process that                                                               
the state has chosen.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:01:38 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  THORSTENSON   responded  that  some  people   may  have  the                                                               
foresight, as in your family,  to understand that they'll have to                                                               
go through  this process  every three years  and upset  the apple                                                               
cart. Speaking  for himself, he  said that  up until he  took the                                                               
job as executive director of  the association he stayed away from                                                               
Board  of Fisheries  meetings because  they  are so  contentious.                                                               
It's the worst part of the  job. As far as scientists knowing the                                                               
job description,  that's a fair  statement, he said.  However, he                                                               
doesn't  think  a  student  at  UAS  who  decides  not  to  be  a                                                               
communication  major in  favor of  doing  fisheries research  and                                                               
science is  thinking about that until  much later when he  or she                                                               
gets the job with fish and game.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BUNDE  said fisheries  in Alaska  have changed  from when                                                               
the Board of Fisheries first started,  so it is healthy to review                                                               
current practice. That's all the bill asks.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON held SB 137 in committee.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:04:14 PM                                                                                                                    
There being nothing further to come before the committee, Chair                                                                 
Olson adjourned the meeting at 5:04 p.m.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB137 AKBOF Meetings.pdf SCRA 4/2/2009 3:30:00 PM
SB 137
SB137 CDFU Letter.doc SCRA 4/2/2009 3:30:00 PM
SB 137
SB137 Estimated Costs.pdf SCRA 4/2/2009 3:30:00 PM
SB 137
SB137 Fiscal Note.pdf SCRA 4/2/2009 3:30:00 PM
SB 137
SB137 SEAS Letter.pdf SCRA 4/2/2009 3:30:00 PM
SB 137
SB137 Sponsor Statement.pdf SCRA 4/2/2009 3:30:00 PM
SB 137